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frncsbrennan
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I recently picked up this coin online and have been thinking of adding it as a commemorative coin. Would it count as a Crimea coin? This is the description of it:
"To commemorate Crimea’s independence, this privately-issued 10 Roubles coin was struck. The obverse of each bi-metallic coin features the denomination (though it was never issued as legal tender). An outline of both the country and a dove taking flight are on the reverse, with an inscription that translates to “Independent Crimea” and the date of independence – March 11, 2014."
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If it said privately issued id say no. At best a placement in tokens. But Numista seems to be a law unto itself.
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Since Crimea is not really independent, I would say no.
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lidianb
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If that is privately issued, I would say it doesn't count. But are you looking to get a coin from Crimea to add an additional country to your numbers, or are you interested in the annexation from Russia? If you are looking for the second, I would suggest:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces66048.html It should be cheap and is a real coin.
frncsbrennan
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Yes, I was just interested in adding a country to my number. I suppose tokens is the best fit. Thanks.
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Citation: "frncsbrennan"Yes, I was just interested in adding a country to my number. I suppose tokens is the best fit. Thanks.
Definitely you do not need to add a country - it is Russian token ;-)
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Here are a few of the last coins from Crimea as a sort of independent state (it was in fact a vassal of the Ottoman Empire before these coins were issued). These two coins are from the time of Shahin Giray as vassal of the Russian Empire: a Kopeck of 1780 and Denga of 1781. Both were mint in Baghchi Saray and denominated in Russian currency. It might be of interest in particular to those who missed their history lesson about Ottoman-Russian wars of the 18th century when Crimea has become a part of Russia. Shahin Giray was the last "independent" ruler of Crimea. After this issue Russian Imperial coinage circulated on the peninsula for about 135 years, then Soviet one for about 70 years, then Ukrainian for 22 years, and from 2014 again Russian coinage.
The private token in the 1st post has nothing to do with Crimean coins.

I collect coins and tokens which circulated in Africa from 18th century to 2000. I sell about 7000 illustrated world coins from
http://www.avscoins.com.
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No, what you have there is a token.
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